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time evening Posted: 10/17/08 8:46 PM unknown
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http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/17/first-drive-2009-ford-f-150-capability-matters/

I love this truck. The Fx4 model, for example, is actually intended to go off road, it comes with smaller 17 inch wheels for more sidewall on the tires. If you've ever gone offroad, you know that sidewall is almost as important as the actual tread on the tire. Although the old limited slip worked for 95% of the situations, if you REALLY went off the beaten path, it couldn't transmit enough torque to both wheels. Problem solved with the new locker. yes, Brian, I know. Your dad's truck(2005?) has one. Although I HATE traction and stability control programs(they're a bit aggressive...) the one in the F-150 has a bunch of extra sensors in it and has trailer sway control AAAAAND the integrated trailer brake controller is synced up to everything. I'm still laughing my ass off about this, but apparently the Tundra was porpoising during the 7000 pound tow test due to the weak chassis. If that's true, then I'm afraid of what 10,000 pounds would do, or even more.... The 6 speed is a very welcome feature. With the 4 speed in our truck, it has more than enough grunt up to 45 in first, but upshift to second and it's just out of torque and speed doesn't come along very quickly. I'm almost tempted to say the van is faster from 45-80, due entirely to the fact that the 4.10 allows it to stay in the powerband. The 6 speed cures it all by adding gears so you're always in the powerband. Brilliant. Still even more amazing: The F-150 is faster towing 7000 pounds uphill than the dodge with the hemi. I want to see a 7 speed automatic in the SuperDuty trucks soon....

Sorry about the rantish format of this post, but honestly, Ford got something RIGHT for a change!



time night Posted: 10/17/08 9:09 PM unknown
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They really did, all the reviews i have read all rave about the new truck. I like the looks of the last gen better, but this truck sure has alot going for it, minus the diesel.


time night Posted: 10/17/08 10:34 PM unknown
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yeah the diesl would be a homerun, guess you can say they are on 2nd base and will move toward 3rd when the ecoboost comes out.


time night Posted: 10/17/08 11:27 PM unknown
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I have no idea what was wrong with the Tundra these guys were driving, but not one person on the Tundra Solutions forum has ever complained about it's towing performance.
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time noon Posted: 10/18/08 9:15 AM unknown
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OK.... Now I'm pissed. You can no longer get the Fx4 in regular cab guise, and the locking rear only comes on Fx4 models. Blithering idiots!


time noon Posted: 10/18/08 9:54 AM unknown
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I'm reading the Edmunds review of the F150. Sweet truck. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=133469?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#2
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time noon Posted: 10/18/08 2:13 PM unknown
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By: 99TownCar
OK.... Now I'm pissed. You can no longer get the Fx4 in regular cab guise, and the locking rear only comes on Fx4 models. Blithering idiots!

Truth be told though, outside of fleet commerical sales, and work trucks. Ford doesnt sell many standard cab trucks, so i understand why they dont offer the FX4 standard cab. They should offer the locker on all trucks though.


time noon Posted: 10/18/08 2:30 PM unknown
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I understand that, but I still think it should be offered. That, or regular cab short bed specialty models, the Lightning and Raptor. Lightning is 2wd with ecoboosted 6.2 litre BOSS V8 making somewhere around 550 horsepower backed by a 6 speed manual tranny which is mounted near the rear axle for optimal weight distribution, with a HD IRS from the Expedition and heavy duty differential with intelligent limited slip that can actually lock if conditions dictate. Raptor has obscene amounts of suspension travel, is 4x4, has the equivalent to 2 inches of lift, heavy duty suspension components, 17 inch wheels and some massive mud tires, lockers front and rear with 4.30:1 axles to compensate for tire size and a 3.9:1 granny low range transfer case, 6 speed automatic, and BOSS 6.2 making about 425 horsepower. Both can tow at least 6000 pounds and carry at least 1200 pounds. WANT... It's not economically viable anymore, as both trucks would be lucky to return 17 MPG combined, but still, it's cool as hell.....


time noon Posted: 10/18/08 2:38 PM unknown
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popular mechanics did the first shootout with all the trucks(Yes even the new ram). Guess who came out first, last and the surprise of the Titan.

www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4287668.html

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time evening Posted: 10/18/08 3:38 PM unknown
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LOL!! the titan beat the Tundra AND Silvy! i must say the dodge looks the best... by a sizeable margin. but it sounds like the new effy is about as solid as it gets.
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By: 99TownCar
I understand that, but I still think it should be offered. That, or regular cab short bed specialty models, the Lightning and Raptor. Lightning is 2wd with ecoboosted 6.2 litre BOSS V8 making somewhere around 550 horsepower backed by a 6 speed manual tranny which is mounted near the rear axle for optimal weight distribution, with a HD IRS from the Expedition and heavy duty differential with intelligent limited slip that can actually lock if conditions dictate. Raptor has obscene amounts of suspension travel, is 4x4, has the equivalent to 2 inches of lift, heavy duty suspension components, 17 inch wheels and some massive mud tires, lockers front and rear with 4.30:1 axles to compensate for tire size and a 3.9:1 granny low range transfer case, 6 speed automatic, and BOSS 6.2 making about 425 horsepower. Both can tow at least 6000 pounds and carry at least 1200 pounds. WANT... It's not economically viable anymore, as both trucks would be lucky to return 17 MPG combined, but still, it's cool as hell.....

If i had to place a bet i would bet that neither the lightning or raptor is going to make it to production


time evening Posted: 10/18/08 6:59 PM unknown
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I know, but if the economy wasn't in shambles, Ford was profitable, and gas was 85 cents a gallon...


time noon Posted: 10/19/08 9:57 AM unknown
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By: Tex
LOL!! the titan beat the Tundra AND Silvy!

The Titan is an underrated truck. Spent a week in the "SUV version" (Armada) and I thought it was great. I'd take one over a Chevy.
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time noon Posted: 10/19/08 2:55 PM unknown
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i've always loved the titan, but i don't know if i'd take it over a LTZ Silvy...
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time evening Posted: 10/19/08 5:29 PM unknown
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The Titan truly is a very good truck. One of my friend's dad in high school had one. It was quiet, smooth, comfortable, quick .. good truck. I thought the Ram would win this one, but apparently Ford did it again with the F150. I must say, and I've never said this, I certainly prefer the looks of the Ram over the F150 .. It is solely the best looking truck ever built. It looks like a truck should look.
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